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HH Raid Schedule?
Posted: Sat 2005 Jul 30 12:04 EDT
by Eromenos
Hey guys,
I was wondering if you have any raid schedule already worked out. As you know our raid day is shared between HH, FS, and Monarchy raids. (me being the one that runs, plans, and organizes Monarchy runs) I know there is another shell in there that is jp that sends my messages in game of what they are doing, but don't know where to find a website for it (and probably couldn't read if i did)
But I'm posting this because I finally perfected our Windy pull strategy and the pullers took to it really well. And we cleared windy last night with an hour of farming after and very little death. (Sorry had to be said, just very proud at the teams performance last night ^^)
So far i know FS schedule looks like this:
[F] 8/05: Dynamis - Beaucedine
[F] 8/12: Dynamis - Beaucedine
[F] 8/19: Dynamis - Xarcabard
[F] 8/26: Dynamis - Xarcabard
I would like to see ours look something like this:
[F] 8/05: Dynamis - Jeuno
[F] 8/12: Dynamis - Bastok
[F] 8/19: Dynamis - Beaucedine
[F] 8/26: Dynamis - Beaucedine
I know this is asking HH to not be in glacier for a month it would seem, but most of your raid also goes to IceFarmers, as well as Fatesealers, while most of my raid does not. So those 2 Glacier runs really are a huge deal to my raid. 1 reason being to work on Pulling strats (that is very shaky at best, but you have to learn it somehow lol), and just to give a chance to our raid that has been doing dynamnis with us for months, some with all key items, but has not attended them, to support our other team members in getting thier key items.
I hope at some point we maybe can start a Glacier/X rotation maybe where we do not have conflict of zones. I look forward to trying to come to some kind of compromise (and i'm sorry that these two schedules would take you out of glacier for a whole month, and dyn-x for the last two weeks of the month as well)
Posted: Sat 2005 Jul 30 15:35 EDT
by Arthars
i should say......if theres another LS also doing in the same timeslot, its best to rotate instead of "Hogging" the same zone consecatively
Both BCD or both Xarca looks a nono to me.....
rotate along pls, seriously consecative areas on a day with multiple LS on the day is "not good"
Icefarmers is a different day and different members, so u cannot say "since u guys have icefarmers we do more xarca and bcd is fine"
I can afford to push IF to rotate only 2 zones because i am pretty sure no other LS is doing any dynamis that period.....but for a friday/saturday case, pls work out with the leaders, like the schedule i see above, ur already knocking HH out of BCD without even having a discussion with kirakun
that is all thanks.
Posted: Sat 2005 Jul 30 15:46 EDT
by pockie
Congratulations on the achievement Erom ^^
I do also agree to what Arthars say.
To be fair we should all play 1 different zone each week.
And since we have 3 mature Dynamis LS's now, we should have 1 representative from each LS to discuss about the scheduling.
So we have heard anything from FS yet tho.
Posted: Sat 2005 Jul 30 15:50 EDT
by Arthars
i will tell u whats an idea of the current JP LSs doing dynamis on the weekday, usually theres 5-6 LS on a weekday night doing dynamis, and they have to compromise, rotating zones in all 6 areas, where each week all do diff zone. U guys may wanna come up an order with HH rather than hogging as of above(cancelling HH out of BCD 1 month is ridiculous). We also have our things to try, like shadow NMs and attestations. U may even want to do the tradition /random on the trail markings on the day itself if there is more than 2 LS on the area. If not u get to see really ugly scenes which u dont want to screw the other dynamis LS around who always have the same schedule as u.
Hope u guys seriously review this problem
Posted: Sat 2005 Jul 30 15:52 EDT
by Arthars
yea kira, ero and FS representative need to sit down and talk. This matter now doesnt concern ur LS only, its 3 or even 4 LS ur involving now.
Posted: Sat 2005 Jul 30 16:14 EDT
by Kirakun
Jeez that's a lot of Ice hogging...
I won't accept one LS hogging Ice land. My suggestion is each LS get 2 different Icelands per month (ie) Beau + Xarc in one month and no more than that.
As for HH here is my proposed schedule for the rest of this month:
8/5 - Dy-Be: Shadows + AF Farm
8/13 - Dy-Jeuno:
8/20 - Dy-Windy:
8/27 - Dy-Xarc
This schedule has minimal conflict with the two proposed schedules.
Posted: Sat 2005 Jul 30 16:28 EDT
by Eromenos
It wasn't about hogging it really though, while i understand where you are comming from. For both of these 2 ls that are entering these zones are going to be learning to pull and strategies onthier own. And to try a zone for the first time, to not go back until a month later will really not help us learn what we are doing. I know after i took my LS through Dyn-G 2 times, i was planning a city tour again, i just wanted to give my LS a taste of what was up in that zone and give us a chance to learn it.
I know it's alot to ask, but when you look at it, it would leave Dyn-X open for the next 2 weeks for HH, then 2weeks after that they would be locked out of all ice zones, able to do cities still. While giving us two ls a chance to learn what's up in those zones with 2 consecutive runs.
Like i guess what i was hopping i could try with with you guys was maybe like:
So far i know FS schedule looks like this:
[F] 8/05: Dynamis - Beaucedine
[F] 8/12: Dynamis - Beaucedine
[F] 8/19: Dynamis - Xarcabard
[F] 8/26: Dynamis - Xarcabard
I would like to see ours look something like this:
[F] 8/05: Dynamis - Jeuno
[F] 8/12: Dynamis - Bastok
[F] 8/19: Dynamis - Beaucedine
[F] 8/26: Dynamis - Beaucedine
with HH Being something along the lines of
[F] 8/05: Dynamis - Xarcabard
[F] 8/12: Dynamis - Xarcabard
[F] 8/19: Dynamis - Random City
[F] 8/26: Dynamis - Random City
That would give the two ls new to the zone time to work thier team into it and also work on pulling strategies 2 weeks in a row so things are fresh in people head, before they end up not being able to get back in for a while. And then come to an understanding of a rotation of these ice zones. I was hoping it wouldn't be an unfair request even though its 4 weeks of no Dynamis- Beaucedine since we are completely new to it, and our members are looking to experience these zones, learn, and maybe get the chance to get some of the AF that many of your members have been lucky enough to get. I mean no aggression or disrespect by any of it, and honestly came to try to work things out together. Since this will end up having to be something we work together on to keep conflict to a minimum.
But you have to admit when you entered these zones as a linkshell, it was very helpful to beable to go back to the zone the week after and give it another go to work on problems you encounted your first time. That's all we're really asking too. =o( Not to keep you from AF or try to hog it for ourselves, since basically it's just going to end up being a whole lot of wiping and most likely not even get half of the time extentions our first run. And being able to return the week after to fix what we screwed up right away while still fresh in our heads. Sorry if requesting this was such a bad thing when you'd still have access to Dyn X two of those weeks, and could still do city raids the other two. And i know for my ls, Dyn X is probably a ways off so we won't even be worked into that Mix.
Please understand where we are comming from, atleast speaking for Null (my dynamis ls) when we tried to schedule ourselves around a dynamis line up that was already posted on FS boards.
Posted: Sat 2005 Jul 30 16:46 EDT
by Kirakun
I suggest each LS have one Xarc and one Be per month and two random cities. This way there is variety.
I'm currently assigning Pockie as the Friday Dynamis representative. If that OK with you both, please talk to her.
But... please consider the 1X/1B ordeal. I do not enjoy doing 2 Xarc a month nor 2 Be a month, but one of each is ok. Just because the LS's are new to a zone, you can't expect HH to step aside and let you play as you like. We make our adjustments so you can play the zone, please show the same respect by altering the schedule so the zones are shared equally among all the participaing LS.
Also it's quite unfair that you two discussed the schedule without discussing with HH as well in the first place. I'm sure you both know we run on Fridays since November of 2004.
Posted: Sat 2005 Jul 30 17:04 EDT
by Eromenos
Eromenos wrote:Please understand where we are comming from, atleast speaking for Null (my dynamis ls) when we tried to schedule ourselves around a dynamis line up that was already posted on FS boards.
There was no "leaving out HH converstations" Kira, please don't be so worked up like it was a situation like that. I already said that i tried to make a schedule after seeing thiers on thier forum, and then came to your site but saw no schedule. So i wrote one as to try these new zones. And honestly i didn't think you would take so much offense to it. But when dealing with loot, i guess it always comes to this =o(.
I'm currently in contact with pocky, hopfully chanalix soon, to work something out.
Posted: Sat 2005 Jul 30 17:15 EDT
by Kirakun
It's not about loot, please don't assume. Everyone in HH knows how much loot I won lmao~
You we're literally telling us where we should go and when. I take offense to that. With so many LS playing on the same day, we should have one representative for all LS to work out a schedule rather that someone out of the blue assign times for everyone.
Posted: Sat 2005 Jul 30 17:22 EDT
by Eromenos
well like i said i'm talking to pockie, and hopfully chanalix soon, but Kira if you read my first post, i even said it in a questioning manner, as to seek approval. Approval was not given, that's cool. That's why I came here as to not just go there and deal with it on the day of.
But i did say "FS looks like this" "i would *like* to see ours look like this" "i know this is *asking* alot" at no point was i telling you anything. please reread the first post so you can see that no where in there was it telling, if anything it was in a very non-aggressive manner of asking.
Again talking to Pockie, hoping to talk to chanalix soon.