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Suggestions for PLD
Posted: Tue 2006 May 23 01:57 EDT
by Ahkow
Just asking ... Would it be better if PLD sub nin for Xarcabard runs ? The NMs at Xarcarbard hits hard >_< and also the mobs hit hard too ... This maybe decreases the downtime and also increases survival rate ....
Just a suggestion ....
Posted: Tue 2006 May 23 03:41 EDT
by Yevna
Sub rdm? =3
Posted: Tue 2006 May 23 05:36 EDT
by Chameleo
RDM/PLD...>_>?
Posted: Tue 2006 May 23 06:21 EDT
by Ahkow
haha RDM/PLD = +1 Refresh and you can ocassionally flash them wahaha ...
Posted: Tue 2006 May 23 12:02 EDT
by Cidriel
Question: do you use food in Dynamis? I have filters turned off, but outside of hearing people spam cookies when resting, I don't really see/hear if people do or not.
Posted: Tue 2006 May 23 15:52 EDT
by Kazekuro
Cidriel wrote:Question: do you use food in Dynamis? I have filters turned off, but outside of hearing people spam cookies when resting, I don't really see/hear if people do or not.
I use Meat for Dynamis. Gonna break out some sole sushi for Xarcabard though. ^-^
Posted: Tue 2006 May 23 16:38 EDT
by Kirakun
For this raid, I want us to be more effiecent at doing NMs. This means helping BLM Stun at intervals, SMNs using BPs, etc. Skip the skill chains, that's too messy.
As for DL, I dunno yet. I'll think about it still haha.
Posted: Tue 2006 May 23 17:38 EDT
by Lazyazn
kira..
count the mnks...
count the rdm/drks...
and the brds
is it leg>◘
or leg<◘
Posted: Thu 2006 May 25 02:18 EDT
by Ahkow
I eat tacos for nms ...
As for DL , we need mnks + mad DDs with a brd , then we can do DL in a min with the rdm/drks we have ...
Also we need yumi's fenrir for the kill
Posted: Thu 2006 May 25 03:12 EDT
by Aeges
This would be good for the NM holders yes.. but what about the main tank. I dont really see a PLD/NIN flashing up hate off of 2-3 warriors, and 4-6 blms
Posted: Thu 2006 May 25 18:52 EDT
by Mikola
gonna need someone to crash course me on tanking in xarcabard
Posted: Fri 2006 May 26 10:01 EDT
by Damion
WOOOO!!! finally get to use my RDM/drk. will the stun teams and order be set up at the raid itself or is it somewhere in the forums?
---Damion
Posted: Fri 2006 May 26 12:23 EDT
by jagz
wish SE would give pld provoke ^^
Posted: Fri 2006 May 26 12:44 EDT
by Darkronin
SE could give PLD its own voke and I would still sub WAR.
/nin = Uts and Uts Ni
Humm math says PLD with no evasion gear = Mob swing shadow gone
PLD with evasion gear = confused real tank with now less vit and enmity and unlike NIN tanks PLD can not rely on damage of NIN elemental spells for damage and mele damage for added hate
Ummm but blinks are nice in their own way just not with a job that has no major way of gettin hate without voke.
/war = Provoke, Defender, Warcry those only sound like 3 things but they are 3 big things
Just my 2cents and not an attack on anyone who wants to /nin but imo PLD is not one of the jobs for that. SE is working to fix PLD to make it THE tank it was ment to be, why would players want to make it less make it less?
Now consider this option, as I would never say something bad on an idea without giving a alternative, if you can set up a lose not etched in stone FLASH system with the MAIN tank and a few WHM. Dont take it like a BLM STUN order cus WHM do too much already as is with keeping ppl alive. But FLASH is only 'spiked hate' and will not pull hate if a WHM does it on a mob. Myrddine used to time her FLASH with my PLD in exp ptys and it was awsome (Flash -3 misses by mob 2Flashes -6 misses by mob).
Considering hi lv mobs hit hard and in 3 hits can do quick 300+ damage 6 misses is very nice, and FLASH only costs 25mp to cast vs the same amount of mp to cure the damage done by those hits.
Yes we all know FLASH is not 100% mob missing PLD but its better that the mob miss some and the PLD still have VOKE then the PLD trying to Blink tank in SUPER LAG zone.
Just what was on my mind^^
Posted: Fri 2006 May 26 19:47 EDT
by Mikola
Darkronin wrote:
PLD with evasion gear = confused real tank with now less vit and enmity and unlike NIN tanks PLD can not rely on damage of NIN elemental spells for damage and mele damage for added hate
Ummm but blinks are nice in their own way just not with a job that has no major way of gettin hate without voke.
just my experience, but when did a NIN ever spam elemental ninjutsu to keep hate after lv50? and PLD/NIN isn't that bad of a tank, you'd be quite surprised, I can do it really well with friends farming sea organs or just anything(me and keka[WHM] duo numerous things and I sub NIN and we do fine). and not sure if you know, but a good strategy for things like CoP wyrms and Cerberus and other stuff like that is two PLD/NINs tanking, three is nice, but party settup is usually PLD/NINx2 WHM RDM BRDx2(double march double ballad). sure, dont use evasion equip when subbing NIN(unless there's literally no other equip for that slot), but dont shoot down NIN sub for non-'screwing around' situations.