SAM: Haubergeon vs Hachiman Domaru

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#1 Post by **Kirakun** » Thu 2005 Oct 27 12:27 EDT

Haube: STR5 DEX5 Atk10 Acc10
Domaru: STR8 WS-Acc8

Wouldn't Haube still be better for WS? I'm trying to buff up my Taru SAM for lv70. By lv72 I could have +48STR A_A

Keef · #2 Post by **Keef** » Thu 2005 Oct 27 12:36 EDT

haube for the win...

Nizzy · #3 Post by **Nizzy** » Thu 2005 Oct 27 13:07 EDT

better yet haub+1 ...

Sygus · #4 Post by **Sygus** » Thu 2005 Oct 27 13:20 EDT

If you sub thief acc don't matter. Go all out str since sam ws modifier is 75% STR. If you /war well I think Jse is still better for the weaponskill but maybe haubergeon to build up tp.

Keef · #5 Post by **Keef** » Thu 2005 Oct 27 15:53 EDT

Sygus wrote:If you sub thief acc don't matter. Go all out str since sam ws modifier is 75% STR. If you /war well I think Jse is still better for the weaponskill but maybe haubergeon to build up tp.

I dont know 3 str isnt worth it at all plus you dont get that attack 10.. but if you rich like sygus i would go invest all +1 version. OOOhh im not a SAM ~

Sygus · #6 Post by **Sygus** » Thu 2005 Oct 27 15:59 EDT

I still think the best Sam armor is Byrnie +1 but it's not really affordable anymore.
Also I don't know much about Sam either.

#7 Post by **Kirakun** » Thu 2005 Oct 27 16:12 EDT

I haven't seen a Byrnie+1 for ages... I was saving up for one, but unfortunately that money went to speed belt...

I think I'll be sticking to the Haube, the +atk is much more effective than str8 alone.

An investment that I will make tho will be for the Hachiman Kotes:

Hachiman Kote: STR4 LE:Atk10 (when TP>=100)
Ochiudo's Kote: Atk20

Tavalin · #8 Post by **Tavalin** » Fri 2005 Oct 28 10:29 EDT

Simple answer: get both, lol. For general meleeing the haub will give you better results but for WS hachiman should give better results. I use my Haubergeon+1 for meleeing and use Hachiman Domaru for WS. If using /war sub I doubt you'll see much of a different between either for WS but for /thf I find it noticable.

As for Hachiman kote...I've never used them as I have enk bracelets (str+7) which I use for WS and saotome kote (atk+10) which I use for meleeing and I don't like the idea of TP related latents.

And no! Byrnie+1 isn't the best armour for sam unless all you plan to do is exp on VT mobs all day.

#9 Post by **Kirakun** » Fri 2005 Oct 28 11:54 EDT

:O Thanks Tav!

I have the Haube, was wondering if it was worth to get Domaru ^^b

I totally forgot about the Saotome Kote ><#

Sygus · #10 Post by **Sygus** » Fri 2005 Oct 28 12:37 EDT

Tavalin is a byrnie hater. He has no fashion taste. :p

#11 Post by **Kirakun** » Fri 2005 Oct 28 13:26 EDT

Hmm... Saotome Kote while building TP (and for Med use), switch to Hachiman Kote for WS A_A

Could use Ochiudo's Kote to build TP but Space is PRECIOUS!!

Keef · #12 Post by **Keef** » Fri 2005 Oct 28 13:27 EDT

Sygus wrote:Tavalin is a byrnie hater. He has no fashion taste. :p

lol sygus is just a bit jealous because his brd can wear it~

Sygus · #13 Post by **Sygus** » Fri 2005 Oct 28 14:46 EDT

Keef wrote:
Sygus wrote:Tavalin is a byrnie hater. He has no fashion taste. :p
lol sygus is just a bit jealous because his brd can wear it~

I can't afford stuff like that I'm not rich like Keef.

Tavalin · #14 Post by **Tavalin** » Fri 2005 Oct 28 15:50 EDT

Yea, saotome kote are sexy. 140-160% TP per meditate.

(if used with myochin kabuto too)

I dunno the price of Hachiman kote but if it's similar to the price of enk bracelets I'd advise you to get those instead if you plan on using saotome kote for TP building. No point macroing +4 str if you can macro +7 for the same price range. When I got my enk bracelets they were about 500k but knowing the way the economy is going they've probably doubled in price so whatever works with your budget and space saving style.

meph · #15 Post by **meph** » Sun 2005 Oct 30 08:45 EST

need both....unless u got shura BP, otherwise basic set up 1 set STR, 1 set acc equipment